Babis: Azalis and Two Baha’i Groups August 2006 version Azalis and Baha’is are two similar religions that try to unify religion by accepting the teachings of Krishna, Zoroaster, Moses, Mohammed, and Jesus. They came from Islam, claim to follow Mohammed, but do not claim to be Muslim. First we will see some background on Islam, especially the Shi’ite branch, and then a brief sketch of Babism. We will look briefly at Azalis, and then concentrate more on Baha’is, their contradictions, and why they need to leave and come to know the real Jesus. Background on Islam Islam has great respect for Jesus, but apart from a few things in the Qur’an, Mohammed claimed Jesus said Muslims cannot point to any of Jesus’ words that they follow. Why is this? A minor reason is that they believe what Mohammed said abrogates anything different said by Jesus, Moses, or earlier prophets. The major reason is that they say the Bible has been corrupted, and to such an extent that it is no longer reliable; a new prophet was needed. Muslims agree with Christians that Jesus will return from heaven, but they deny that He really died on the cross. Rather God miraculously switched another, and Jesus secretly disappeared. Background on Shi’ite Islam The savage civil war between the caliph ‘Ali and the following caliph Mu’awiyah, the martyrdom of Husain at Karbala and subsequent behavior of the caliph Yezid, remind Shi’ites of their view of the Sunni corruption of the caliphate. Not only that, but they distrust the Sunni traditions of the prophet in the hadiths and many even believe Sunnis took out key verses of the Qur’an. They have a great deal of respect for Mohammed, but believe that an imam is required to show the truth and interpret it correctly. Shi’ites split over who the successor to the sixth imam was. Should it be the younger brother Musa al-Kazim, since the older brother, Isma’il was (very disputably) a drinker of alcohol? A minority today, called 7’ers (Isma’ilis) think Isma’il, and a majority today, called 12’ers (Ithna’ashariyya), go with al-Kazim and his descendants down to the 12th imam. However, the 12th imam mysteriously disappeared, with no clear successor. 12’er Shi’ites believe he did not die but was miraculously taken up to heaven, and at the end times he will return, before Jesus does. The word bab, meaning "gate", is a religious concept in many Shi’ites, and many have claimed to be the Bab. One of the earliest was Muhammad ibn Nusayr an-Namiri (c.850 A.D.), who called himself the Gate (Bab) to Truth. ‘Alawite Muslims believe there were many Babs, the seventh being Saliman al-Farisi, a companion of Mohammed’s. Babis, Forerunners of Baha’is and Azalis The Babis came out the Shi’ite Shayki movement when Ali Muhammad of Shiraz, a descendant of Mohammed born in 1819/1821, claimed to the Bab, or forerunner to the hidden (12th) imam. He claimed this on a pilgrimage to Mecca in 1844 A.D.. The Bab wrote many works; but his revelations are recorded in The Book of Bayan. He taught brotherly love, cleanliness, education, more freedom for women, and no begging or alcohol. The Bab taught that that many things were just figurative. For example, resurrection simply means spiritual awakening from ignorance, heedlessness, and lust. The Day of Judgment was the time when people would hear of and individually accept or reject the new manifestation. Paradise is the joy of knowing and loving God though His Manifestation. Hell is being deprived of that knowledge and loss of eternal favor. He definitely declared that these terms have no real meaning apart from this; and that the prevalent ideas regarding the resurrection of the material body, a material heaven and hell, and the like, are mere figments of the imagination. He taught that man has a life after death, and that in the afterlife progress towards perfection is limitless. Among the more interesting teachings of the Bayan in 8:14 is that the Bab commands his followers to recite 700 verses of the Bayan every twenty-four hours. (http://bahai-library.com/unpubl.articles/walbridge.panj.html) The Bab was arrested, and the Babis started a rebellion in Persia. In the battles of Shaykh Tabarsi, Nayriz, and a fortress in Zanjan many of the Babi leaders, and 2,000 to 3,000 Babis were killed. Baha’is claim 20,000, but academic scholars such as Dennis MacEoin deny this. After the battles, the government executed the Bab by firing squad on July 9th, 1850 A.D. In 1852 a Babi tried to shoot the Shah, and the Shah retaliated against the Babis. Baha’is say that both the Bab and the Baha’u’llah were manifestations of God, and three of the ten Baha’i feasts commemorate events in the Bab’s life. Azalis After the Babi was killed in 1850, at least seven men claimed to be his successor as "One whom God should manifest". Almost all Babis initially followed Mirza Yahya Nuri Subh/Sobh al-Azal (c.1830-1912) for 13 years. He had a will from the Bab showing him as his chosen successor. (Subh al-Azal means dawn of eternity.) Al-Azal advocated dissimulation (deceiving others about what they believed) instead of conflict. His group is called Azalis. After 13 years, a second faction, Baha’i, was started by al-Azal’s older half-brother Husayn ‘Ali Nuri Baha’ (1817-1892), who 6 years later claimed himself as the Baha’u’llah. Some Baha’is said the Bab appointing al-Azal as a successor was just a tactic to deflect public attention away from Husayn. http://www.h-net.org/~bahai/arabic/ vol4/niraqi/niraqi.htm has more on the Bab appointing Mirza Yahya as his chosen successor.Mulla Rajab ‘Ali, nicknamed Qahir was a prominent Azali writer whom Azalis claim was murdered by Bahai’s. See www.h-net.org/ ~bahai/arabic/vol4/qahir/qahir.htm. (11/13/2004) While the Bab taught Jihad was OK, and the Baha’u’llah rejected Jihad, the Baha’u’llah urged his followers to be violent against their enemies. The government exiled both groups to different places. The Azalis were taken to Cyprus while the Baha’is were taken to Acre in Palestine. Right after this, a large number of Azali leaders were assassinated. http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/5111/mirza.html 11/13/2004See Denis MacEoin, "Divisions and Authority Claims in Babism (1850-1866)." Studia Iranica 18, 1 (1989):93-129 for more on alleged Baha’i assassinations of Azalis. The Baha’u’llah and His Problems While there are only a few thousand Azalis in Iran today, the New 20th Century Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge estimates there are 1.3 to 2 million Baha’is in 1991. Many Jews had become Baha’is in Iran under the Shah. Many of them were killed under Khomeini. Baha’is follow and worship the Baha’u’llah, who was born in Persia (today’s Iran) in 1817 and died in Palestine in 1892. In 1863, nineteen years after the Bab revealed himself, the Baha’u’llah revealed himself as 12th imam returned as well as Christ returned. Baha’u’llah wrote the Tablet of Ishraqat, the Tablet of Tarazat, and Book of Aqdas – addressed to Christians. However, the Bab declared that he was the Mahdi, while the Baha’ullah declared he was the Mahdi. The Bab appointed Subh-i Azal as his successor, not the Baha’ullah. Also, the Bab said a new manifestation would not arrive for 1,000 years, not 19 years. See http://www.geocities.com/Athens/ Acropolis/5111/mirza.html 11/13/2004 for more. The Baha’u’llah’s Successors After The Baha’u’llah died, his oldest son ‘Abdu’l-Baha ‘Abbas (=Abbas Effendi) (5/23/1844-1921) took over. He was born on Tehran on the same night the Bab revealed himself. His oldest grandson, Shoghi Effendi Rabbani (1897-1957) succeeded him. After him, the Baha’is were led by a council called the International House of Justice. However, a group now called the Orthodox Baha’i Faith split off, saying the successor was not a council but Mason Remey. Beckwith says the two Baha’i groups’ other beliefs are almost identical. In a thousand or more years the Baha’u’llah claimed another Manifestation will appear, under the shadow of Baha’u’llah, with clear proofs of His mission, but until then the words of Baha’u’llah, Abdu’l-Baha and the Guardian and the decisions of the International House of Justice constitute the authorities to which all believers must turn for guidance. No Bahá’í may found a school or sect based on any particular interpretation of the teachings or any supposed divine revelation. Anyone contravening these injunctions is considered a "Covenant-breaker." http://bahai-library.com/books/new.era/8.html The Importance of the Calendar Baha’is teach that "in the not far distant future it will be necessary that all peoples in the world agree on a common calendar." The Baha’i year has 19 months of 19 days each (= 361 days). The also add four to five intercalary days between the eighteenth and nineteenth months in order to adjust the calendar to the solar year. The Bahá’í New Year starts the same as the Persian New year at the March equinox. Baha’i Teaching on God Baha’i Beliefs on God
Baha’i Practices
Anti-Hindu and Anti-Buddhist Teachings
Anti-Islam Teaching
Muslims would generally say Baha'i teachings are not only wrong, but Baha'i teachings about Mohammed misrepresent Islam. See Anti-Jewish Teaching
Anti-Christian Teaching
Anti-Catholic Teaching
Which of God’s Personalities Do You Want to Believe Today? What kind of god would allow his people (Hindus) to think his prophet wanted them to worship the prophet and other idols, and yet command his people (Muslims) to kill idolators! What kind of god would "reveal" that Allah has people’s skins burned off in Hell, and then gives them new skins to be burned off again, and then the Baha’u’llah says that heaven and hell are just metaphors for the benefits of spiritual education vs. the deprivations of spiritual ignorance? What kind of god would tell us salvation is within you (Buddha), no one comes to the Father except through Jesus (Jesus), God is not a father and has no son (Mohammed in the Qur’an). What kind of god would have Jesus return back just the way he ascended in the clouds (Acts 1:9-11 and Rev. 1:7), yet the Baha’u’llah is Christ returned? What kind of god commands us to "love our enemies and pray for those who persecute us" (Mt. 5:44-45; Luke 6:27-38), "forgive 70 times 7 (Mt. 18:21-22), vs. "curse the Christians" (Mohammed near the end of his life in Bukhari vol.1 book 8 no.427 p.255) vs. wage Jihad against the Muslim Persians (the Bab)? Many more examples can be given, but I hope you get the point. Some might think the god of Bahai’s suffers from multiple personality disorder! 1st Baha’i Answer: "Progressive" Revelation (a.k.a. Cyclical Revelation) Baha’is have an answer for this, called progressive revelation. Similar to Muslims, they believe a prophet can restrict, relax, or otherwise change a command from a previous prophet. However, "progressive" is a misnomer. Jewish and Christian women did not have to wear veils, free Muslim women all did, and Baha’i women do not. Perhaps "cyclical revelation" is a more appropriate term. Likewise, the Jews had many dietary restrictions, including pork and camel meat, the Christians were loosed from dietary restrictions, and the Muslims have some dietary restrictions (no pork, but camel meat is OK.). Likewise the Baha’i God flip-flopped on divorce. Divorce was permitted for any cause in the Old Testament, because people’s hearts were hard. Jesus forbade divorce except for unfaithfulness. Yet Muslim men can divorce as they please. So if Baha’i were true, revelation is really cyclical, not progressive. 2nd Baha’i Answer: Corrupted Words Baha’is give a second, complementary answer: most of the words or the previous prophets were lost and corrupted. Thus anything that disagrees with the teaching of the Bab and Baha’u’llah that was not simply abrogated, is a corruption. There are two problems with this: the Bab wrote after the printing press and the Baha’u’llah contradicts what he said that the 12th imam will not appear for 1,000 years. This is no mere abrogation of a command: this makes the Bab’s prophecy a lie. A second problem is this: what if we had strong evidence of the reliability of the Old Testament, New Testament, as well as the vast majority of the Qur’an? Then this Baha’i defense would also fall. Let’s start with the Qur’an and work backwards. While the Qur’an was collected after Mohammed’s death, Sahih Muslim (vol.2:2286 p.500,501) says that one sura was lost, and the Qur’an of Ibn Masu’d did not have three Suras, and ‘Ubai bin Ka’b’s Qur’an did not have many suras, we can know that most of the suras belonged there based on the quotes and paraphrases in the hadiths and early Muslim historians. Even if parts of the Qur’an were not preserved correctly, much of it undoubtedly was. There are many parts in the Qur’an about waging Jihad against infidels The Sunni hadiths written 200 years later, and early Muslim historians confirm much of the doctrine of Islam (though not every detail of the Qur’an). Let’s look at the gospels. We have manuscripts of most of the gospels from 150-200 A.D., with the John Rylands fragment from about 117-138 A.D. We also have the corroborating testimony of the early church writers, starting with Clement of Rome in 97/98 A.D.. We even have the heretic Tatian, who c.170 A.D. quoted verbatim 73% of the gospels in his work, the Diatessaron. (The Diatessaron does not contain any additional material either.) In the Qur’an Sura 5:46-48 says that Jesus confirmed the Torah and the Gospels. In the gospels Jesus also affirmed the Old Testament of His time. We have many copies of the Old Testament from Jesus time among the Dead Sea Scrolls, and they show that the Old Testament has been reliably preserved today. Conclusion Just as Shi’ites claim Mohammed’s words and traditions are not enough, a more modern prophet is needed, Baha’is say that all previous revelations should be recast in the light of the Baha’u’llah. Just as Muslims respect Jesus, but say the surviving words of all previous prophets are gross corruptions of what they originally said, Baha’is say the same about all previous prophets including Mohammed. But if the previous teachings were not totally corrupted, then the Baha’i religion falls. Sharing the Gospel with Baha’is Baha’is already believe the truth that God is One and idolatry is wrong. But ask a Baha’i, if God really did mean to tell us something literally, such as Heaven and Hell are real destinations, how would they know? Would inconsistencies of the Baha’u’llah to previous prophets tip them off? Would the testimony of thousands of Christian martyrs, who died for their faith rather than practice dissimulation be a witness to them? How would they hear? God is the God of truth, and God does not lie (Numbers 23:19; 1 Samuel 15:29). Yet people are sinful and lie, including many who have lied about God. Many claimed to be the rightful successor to the Bab, and Shi’ites say both the Bab and the Baha’u’llah being the 12th imam are lies. How do you judge the truthfulness of a claim, and how does your standard of judgment apply to the Baha’u’llah? In Matthew 24:4-5 "Jesus answered: ‘Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many.’" Revelation 1:7 says, "Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen." Did every eye see the Baha’u’llah? Atheists used to scoff at this verse, saying it was impossible for everyone to see Jesus at once since the earth was round. - Of course that was before TV. Only an extremely small percentage of the people of the earth saw Baha’u’llah. "After he [Jesus] said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight. They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. ‘Men of Galilee,’ they said, ‘why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.’" Acts 1:9-11 (NIV) You have to make a decision to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior. Because, as Philippians 2:9-11 says, "Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." Who is the Successor of the Bab??? "Bab" is a term among various Shi’ite and ‘Alawite groups for a person who is a "gate" to truth, heaven, or the Mahdi. Ali Muhammad of Shiraz, a descendant of Mohammed born in 1819/1821, claimed to the Bab, the forerunner to the hidden (12th) imam. He claimed in Mecca in 1844 A.D.. Examples of the Bab’s Writing The Bab wrote a number of books, including Kitabu’l-Asma’, and perhaps his most important work, the Bayan. The Azali faction also calls themselves Bayani’s, because they follow the Bab’s Bayan, while the Baha’is allegedly do not. In fact, the Baha’u’llah in the Epistle of the Wolf said he never had the time or opportunity to read the writings of the Bab. Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.60 These are from the Bab’s work Panj Sha’n (Five Modes), translated by http://bahai-library.com/unpubl.articles/walbridge.panj.html (11/23/2004) In the Name of God, Very God, Very God! Say, You, O God, You arise as God Note that all people were to bow before the Manifestation of God, and that is who the Bab claimed to be. The Alleged Successors When the Shi’ite Persians arrested him, there were enough Babis to start a revolt. However, after at least three battles thousands of Babis were killed. The Persians executed the Bab on July 9th, 1850 A.D. In 1852 a Babi tried to shoot the Shah, and the Shah retaliated further against the Babis. But would succeed the Bab? Many wanted to do so.
For the first thirteen years, the majority of Babis followed Azal. Then the Baha’u’llah started his group, and six years after that the Baha’u’llah claimed he was the promised one. Feuds and Murders Over Succession After the Bab was executed, the Babi’s had a bloody feud among themselves. www.geocities.com/ Athens/Acropolis/5111/mirza.html says: "Upon reaching Edirne in December 1863, tensions in the Babi community heightened. In Early 1866 Bahaullah formalized the division in the community, and the Babis formally pledged support for either Sobh-e Azal or Bahaullah, the latter being the more popular. Despite Bahaullah’s rejection of holy war, which Babis had practiced diligently, Bahaullah urged his supporters to violence, and a bloody feud ensued. The public and government officials in Edirne had remained quite amicable to the Babis but upon these latter developments became uncomfortable. In 1868 Ottoman officials intervened. Sobh-e Azal and his supporters, the Azali, were sent to Famagusta, Cyprus while Bahahullah and the Bahai were removed to Acre, Palestine. Provisions were made to station observers in the opposing side’s camp for monitoring purposes. Murders continued, however, and three Azali observers were killed in one night alone. Assasinations of Azali leaders were reported in Karbala, Baghdad, Tabriz, Acre and throughout Iran. Such prominent figures as Aqa Syed Ali Arab and Mulla Rajab Ali, both among the first 19 Babis, the Letters of the Living, and Haji Mirza Jani Kashani, author of Nuqtat ul-Qaf, joined the ranks of killed Azalis.
… Reviled by many Bahais, Sobh-e Azal is nevertheless considered the Bab’s true successor by many Babis, especially ones in Iran. Azalis adhere to the Bab’s original doctrinal work, the Bayan, and have remained a small group."
The Bab’s Will and Testament Azalis claim to have a Last Will of the Bab, written a few days before his execution in 1850, and forwarded to Azim Turshizi, who sent it to Sub-i Azal. It designates Subh-i Azal (not the Baha’u’llah) as the successor. Here is the text and translation from http://www.beliefnet.com/boards/message_list.asp?discussionID=178496 (11/23/2004). Allahu Akbar Takbir’an Kabir’an The web site notes that one can also read this (with an older English translation) in E.G. Browne’s
A Baha’i View One Baha’i view is that the Bab did not really want Azal to succeed him, but wrote that will so that the Persians would not know about the real successor, theBaha’ullah. Of course Azalis disagree. The Bab’s View While we cannot ask the Bab today, the Bab wrote one thing: he said a new manifestation would not arrive for 1,000 years, not 19 years. See http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/5111/mirza.html 11/13/2004 for more info.Now Azal did not claim to be a manifestation, but the Baha’u’llah did. The Ithna’Ashariyya Shi’ite Muslim View The Shi’ites of Iran believe the 12th imam will return, but he is neither the Bab nor the Baha’u’llah. The Mahdi will be descended from Fatima, and will be called Mohammed. While the Bab claimed to be descended from Mohammed, the Persian Baha’u’llah (to my knowledge) never did. The Mahdi will raise the black standard in Khurasan (Baha’u’llah never did that). He will come to Mecca, and then travel to Kufa. (The Baha’u’llah never went to Kufa) The one-eyed Dajjil (anti-Christ) will come in the East The sun will rise from the west, and a star in the east will give out as much light as the moon. Like Mohammed, the Mahdi will have a new cause and a new book and a new religious law. This will be a severe test for Arabs. The sword will be between the Mahdi and the Arabs. (The Arabs did not persecute the Baha’u’llah; the Persians and Turks did.) Jesus will return too. (Jesus is different from the Mahdi in Sh’ite theology.) The 313 fighters from the battle at Badr also return. (This did not happen) The imams and former prophets will also all return The Sunni Muslim View of Baha’is Sunnis believe the identity of the alleged 12th imam is a moot point, because there is no legitimate 12th imam. Mohammed was the seal of the prophets, and apart from the caliphs there is no legitimate imam, Shi’ite or otherwise, to succeed Mohammed. Sunnis consider Baha’is as non-Muslim heretics. Baha’is fall under the following injunctions: In the future beware of people who hold only to the Qur’an and reject the Sunnah. Abu Dawud vol.3:4587-4589 p.1293-1294 Every novelty is an innovation, and every innovation is an error. Abu Dawud vol.3:4590 p.1294 No innovation after the Sunnah is established. Abu Dawud vol.3:4595 p.1296 Sunni Muslims do in fact believe that Jesus will return. But they claim that Jesus will smash the crosses, abolish the jizya tax that nominally protected Jews and Christians, and personally slay the anti-Christ (dajjal). Before he died, the Baha’u’llah did none of these things. The Christian View of Baha’is While the Baha’ullah claimed to be Christ returned, Christians believe the Baha’u’llah is a partial fulfillment of Matthew 24:1,44. "Jesus answered: ‘Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. (10) At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people." Acts 1:9-11 says "After he [Jesus] said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight. They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. ‘Men of Galilee, they said, ‘why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.’" (NIV) Note: it says "this same Jesus" and "the same way". The Jewish View of Baha’is To orthodox Jews, this is all a moot point; the Baha’u’llah is not a successor to Mohammed because Mohammed was not from God. They think the Baha’u’llah was not Christ returned, since they believe Jesus was not the Messiah from God. But when the Messiah comes, he will deliver Israel from her enemies. The Baha’u’llah did nothing of the sort. Will the Real Prophet Please Stand Up? If we have learned nothing else of significance, we can see that it is relatively easy for someone to claim to be a prophet of God, or a successor to someone else. Proving it is another matter. Everyone can agree that many people who claimed to be from God here were counterfeits serving Satan, not the True God. So how can we tell which of them are really from God? Life and Teaching While the Baha’u’llah also suffered imprisonment, he died a natural death (from fever) and lived very wealthy toward the end of his life. Azalis claim he had his followers attack Azalis. Mohammed also faced persecution, but he persecuted others far me. He died a natural death, but about a year after he ate some poisoned mutton given to him a woman whose husband was killed by Mohammed. The hadiths record that Mohammed ordered assassinations, torture, and surprise attacks against unsuspecting people. Mohammed asked forgiveness for his sins many times. Jesus suffered and died as a martyr for his teaching. He was materially poor all of his life. Jesus did not persecute anyone. He said to love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you. Even Muslims agree with the Bible that Jesus lived a sinless life. Miracles The Baha’u’llah did not perform any miracles of which I have seen records. While the hadiths claim many miracles for Mohammed, including splitting the moon in two, the Qur’anic teaching is that Mohammed did not miracles, besides bringing forth the Qur’an. Jesus performed many miracles, attested by people such as Matthew, John, and Peter. Jesus raised the dead, and He Himself was raised from the dead. Prophecy About Him Baha’u’llah claimed he was prophesied by Zoroastrians (Shah Bahram), the Bible (Christ returned) and Shi’ite Islam (12th imam returned). However, the Baha’u’llah did not convincingly overthrow the evil Ahiram in Zoroastrianism. In fact, the Baha’u’llah did not overthrow anyone. The Bab prophesied that the Mahdi would come in 1,000 years, and the Baha’u’llah proclaimed himself only 19 years after the Bab’s death. As shown previously, the Baha’u’llah did not follow the Shi’ite prophecies about the Mahdi, the least of which is that the Mahdi and Christ are two different people who will both return. Acts 1 and Revelation 1 show that when Christ returns, it will be the same Christ, in the clouds, and every eye will see him. And even if he were claimed to be Quite frankly, most of the world has never heard of the Baha’u’llah. B Muslims claim Mohammed was prophesied in the Bible in Deuteronomy 18:15-18, John 14:16-26; 15:26; 16:5-15, and other places. However, Deuteronomy 18:15-18 fits Jesus, not Mohammed, because the prophet would be "from among your own brothers", Jesus was Jewish, and Mohammed was not. The verses in John discuss the comforter, who "glorifies Jesus", and was "in the apostles of Jesus" (John 16:17). So why don’t Muslims agree that they and Mohammed should glorify Jesus??? There are many prophecies about Christ in the Old Testament. Here are just a few of them.
When will the Messiah come?
What will the Messiah do?
Reactions of the People
Many Jews missed seeing the Messiah because they were looking for a political Savior, and did not distinguish between His first and second coming.
Prophecies He Made
The Baha’u’llah wrote a letter to Napoleon III warning him to stop being warlike. Napoleon III was later defeated by Germany. On the other hand, the 1923 edition of Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.278,288-289 says that both Baha’u’llah and ‘Abu’l-Baha’ predict the most great peace and promised unity of man will happen in the 20th century. This was removed in subsequent editions according to Beckwith p.37. Mohammed in the hadiths prophesied that they would attack the Romans (Byzantines) and Persians, and fight people with flat faces (Turks). Jesus prophesied that he would be killed, He would rise from the dead, that Jerusalem would be destroyed. The entire book of Revelation was prophecy by Jesus given to John.
Testimony and Life of Witnesses The Baha’u’llah’s followers were persecuted, and many killed in Iran for their beliefs. However, many Azali leaders mysteriously were assassinated, and who would want to assassinate Azali leaders, but not Baha’i leaders? Mohammed’s followers faithfully attacked many peoples to spread Islam and to get 4/5ths of the booty. After Mohammed died, many Arabs gave up being Muslims. Muslims fought them fiercely until they either came back to Islam or were killed. After the Muslims had conquered the Mideast and Persia, they had a Civil War between Mohammed’s son-in-law ‘Ali bin Abi Talib on one side, and Mohammed’s wife ‘Aisha and two generals, Talhah and al-Zubayr, on the other. At the Battle of the Camel, Talhah and al-Zubayr were killed by Muslims on the ‘Ali’s side. Talhah had saved Mohammed’s life at the Battle of Uhud. Talhah and al-Zubayr were two of the only ten Muslims who were guaranteed they would make it to Paradise. After this, there was a bloody Civil War between ‘Ali and Mu’awiyah culminating in the Battle of Siffin. After this, the Kharijite branch of Islam was nearly exterminated by both ‘Ali and Mu’awiyah. Jesus’ early followers did not kill or persecute anybody. Of the eleven disciples, all but one were martyred for their faith: John died a natural death. Conclusion Many claimed to be from God, and some became very wealthy by doing so. However, Jesus had the miracles, prophecies about Him, and a sinless life to back it up. Christ’s early followers spread the gospel peacefully, while Mohammed’s followers attacked with the sword. Even though Baha’is do not spread their religion by the sword, they still claim to follow Mohammed, who did. So forget the imposters and turn to the one God showed was from Him: Jesus Christ. How Baha’is Bend the Bible Both the Baha’u’llah and his predecessor the Bab tried to use a number of Bible verses to support their claim of being Christ returned. Here are some of the verses Baha’is use today, and answers to give Baha’is. Q: Does Gen 1:26 mean that we should be educated to acquire divine perfections and the focus of divine blessings, as Bahai’s teach in Some Answered Questions p.8,9?
Q: In Gen 3:5-22, does Adam symbolize the heavenly spirit, Eve symbolize the earthly soul, and the serpent symbolize attachment to the human world as Bahai’s teach in Some Questions Answered p.123?
Q: Could Isa 9:1,6,7 refer to the Baha’u’llah of the Baha’is, since Jesus did not have the government on His shoulders (Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.261-262)?
Q: Could Isa 11:1-10 refer to the Baha’u’llah of the Baha’is, because part of that has not been fulfilled yet? For example, slaying the wicked, lion and ox lying down together, etc. (Some Answered Questions p.62-66 and Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.266-267)
Q: Could Isa 35:1,2 refer to the Baha’u’llah of the Bahai’s, because it refers to the parched land being glad, and Lebanon and Carmel, where the Baha’u’llah spent the last years of his life?
Q: Could Isa 40:1-5a refer partly to John the Baptist and Christ, and partly to the Bab and Baha’u’llah, as Baha’is teach in Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.263-264?
Q: In Dan 8:13-17, could the 2,300 evenings and mornings be a prophecy the 2,300 years from the decree of Artaxerxes [allegedly 457 B.C.] to the manifestation of the Bab in 1844 A.D. as Baha’is claim? (Some Answered Questions p.40-42)
Q: Could Dan 12:6 refer to the Bab as Baha’is claim, since he appeared 1,260 years from the Hejira of Mohammed? (Some Answered Questions p.43)
Q: In Dan 12:11-12, does the 1,290 days refer to the Baha’ullah being 1,290 years after Mohammed announced his mission as Bahai’s claim in Some Answered Questions p.43-44?
Q: Do Joel 2:30-32 and Mt 24:29-30 refer to Moses, Christ, and Mohammed, their teachings originally being a sun, but they all being darkened by corruption later on? This is what Baha’is teach in Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.277-278.
Q: In the Gospels, is the mention of the darkness and earthquake and torn veil when Christ was crucified only figurative and did not actually happen, because they were not recorded anywhere else, as Some Answered Questions p.37-38 states?
Q: In Mt 12:31-32, does blasphemy against the Holy Spirit mean detesting the light by denying God’s manifestations (such as the Baha’u’llah) as Bahai’s teach in Some Answered Questions p.127-128?
Q: In Mt 16:27, does this refer not to the end of the earth, but the supreme manifestation of the Baha’u’llah, as Baha’is teach in Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.268-269?
Q: Mt 22:14 does the phrase "many are called, few are chosen" refer to variations and degrees of faith and assurance, as Baha’is teach in Some Questions Answered p.129-131?
Q: In Mt 24:30 are clouds things that are contrary to the ways and desires of men as Baha’is teach in Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.280-281?
Q: In Jn 3:13 and Jn 6:38,42, does Christ coming down from heaven only a spiritual symbolic fact, not a material fact as Baha’is teach in Some Answered Questions p.103-105?
Q: In Jn 16:12-13 is the Spirit of Truth here the Baha’u’llah?
Q: Is 1 Cor 15:22 false because all of the prophets were sinless, as Baha’is teach in Some Questions Answered p.118-121?
Q: In Rev 11, could the two witnesses be Mohammed and ‘Ali as the Bahai’s say? (Some Answered Questions p.43-61)
Q: In Rev 11:2, can the mention of Jerusalem being trampled for 42 months mean the time between the Hejira of Mohammed and the revelation of the Bab in 1260 A.D. as Baha’is teach in Some Questions Answered p.46-47?
Q: Was Rev 11:12-13 fulfilled by an earthquake in Shiraz when the Bab was executed as Baha’is teach in Some Questions Answered p.55-56?
Q: In Rev 11:14-15, is Mohammed the first woe, and the Bab the second woe, as Some Questions Answered p.56-57 says?
Q: Rev 12:1 is the woman the law of God under Mohammed, and the male child the new law of God under the Baha’u’llah as Bahai’s teach in Some Questions Answered p.67-72?
Q: In Rev 12:3, was the enormous red dragon the evil Umayyad Dynasty (Abu Bakr, ‘Umar, ‘Uthman, Mu’awiyah, etc.) who had seven dominions: Rome around Damascus, Persian, Arabian, Egyptian, Africa, Spain, and Turks of Transoxania as Baha’is teach in Some Questions Answered p.69-70?
Q: In Rev 21:1-3 is the first heaven and earth signify the old law and the new heaven and earth the new law under the Baha’u’llah, and no sea means all will follow the Baha’u’llah, as Baha’is teach in Some Questions Answered p.67-68?
List of References on Baha’is Baha’u’llah : A Brief Introduction to His Life and Work. Baha’i International Community. 1991. Barney, Laura Clifford (translator) ‘Abdu’l-Baha Some Answered Questions. Baha’i Publishing Trust. 1981 Beckwith, Francis. Baha’i : Bethany House Publishers. 1985. Browne, E.G. (translator) New History of the Bab Browne, E.G. Babis of Persia II Browne, Edward G. (translator) A Traveller’s Narrative Written to Illustrate the Episode of the Bab, The University Press, 1918 p.175-243. Douglas, J.D. New 20th-Century Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge 2nd edition. Baker Book House 1991. Esslemont, J.E. Baha’u’llah and the New Era. Revised Edition. The Baha’i Publishing Committee1940. http://bahai-library.com/books/new.era/... … is 1-12.html List of References on Islam www.Answering-Islam.org is a very extensive web site presenting and debating many aspects of Islam.Hasan, Prof. Ahmad. Sunan Abu Dawud : English Translation with Explanatory Notes. Sh. Muhammad Ashraf Publishers, Booksellers & Exporters 1984 (three volumes) The Holy Qur-an : English translation of the meanings and Commentary. Translated by ‘Abdullah Yusuf ‘Ali. Revised and edited by The Presidency of Islamic Researches, IFTA, Call and Guidance. King Fahd Holy Qur-an Printing Complex. (no date) Khan, Dr. Muhammad Muhsin (translator) The Translation of the Meanings of Sahih Al-Bukhari Arabic-English. Islamic University, Al-Medina Al-Munawwara AL MAKTABAT AL SALAFIAT AL MADINATO AL MONAWART. No date or copyright. Sahih Muslim by Imam Muslim. Rendered into English by ‘Abdul Hamid Siddiqi. International Islamic Publishing House. (no date) Bible verses are from the NIV.
Index of Baha’i Writings Baha’u’llah and the New Era - Unfinished(17 entries) Baha’u’llah and the New Era – Revised Edition by J.E. Esslemont. Baha’i Publishing Committee 1930, 1940 The Baha’u’llah would smoke the Narguileh (hubble-bubble pipe). Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.47 A minority under Mirza Yahya were violently opposed to Baha’u’llah. Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.40 Baha’u’llah died of fever in 5/29/1892 when he was 74 years old. Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.50 Baha’u’llah left a last will and testament naming Abd’ul Baha as his successor. Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.50-51 Baha’u’llah spoke as a man Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.54, but he also spoke "from the state of deity." Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.56 Baha’is use Sufi concepts of annihilation in God and abnegation. Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.54 Baha’u’llah claimed to be the Zoroastrian savior Shah Bahram, who overcomes the spirit Ahriman. Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.57-58 In the Epistle of the Wolf, Baha’u’llah said he never had the time or opportunity to read the writings of the Bab. Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.60 ‘Abdu’l-Baha (‘Abbas Effendi) was born in Tihran/Tehran on 5/23/1844, the very same hour that the Bab declared his mission. Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.64 ‘Abdu’l-Baha committed to memory the tablets of the Bab. [This is strange, since his father the Baha’u’llah never read them.] Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.66 Sufis such as ‘Ali Shawkat Pasha visited the Baha’u’llah. Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.66 When Abdu’l Baha succeeded the Baha’u’llah, some Baha’is contested and stirred up trouble with the Turkish government. Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.69 The Indian caste system was not right. Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.70 Abdu’l Baha promoted Esperanto too. Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.76 9/23/1918, British and Indian cavalry captured Haifa from the Turks. Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.80 Abdu’l Baha would go to the mosque. Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.82 Abdu’l Baha died 11/28/1921. Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.82 Mention of the Father. Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.269 Very brief quote, without explanation, of Mal 3,4. Baha’u’llah and the New Era p.283-284
Some Answered Questions - Unfinished(50 entries) ‘Abdu’l-Baha (Laura Clifford Barney translator) Some Answered Questions. Baha’i Publishing Trust, 1908,10390,1954,1981. Bah’ai is "a new and independent world religion" Some Answered Questions p.ix The fundamental principles proclaimed by the Baha’u’llah are that religious truth is not absolute but relative; that Divine Revelation is a continuous and progressive process; that all the great religions of the world are divine in origin; and that their missions represent successive stages in the spiritual evolution of human society." Some Answered Questions p.xii No reincarnation. Some Answered Questions p.xii More important, the book [Some Answered Questions] has assumed a significant place in the sacred literature of the Faith, being one of the very few compilations of ‘Abdu’l-Baha’s utterances authenticated by ‘Abdu’l-Baha himself." Mention of the telegraph. Some Answered Questions p.4 God has to possess all perfections in order to create. Some Answered Questions p.5 Non-sequiter. The imperfections of the contingent world are in themselves a proof of the perfections of God. (This was sort of an ontological argument.) Some Answered Questions p.5 "…man, if he is left without education, becomes bestial, … whereas if he is educated he becomes an angel…." Some Answered Questions p.7 Misinterpretation of Genesis 1:26. Some Answered Questions p.8,9 The Bab was descended from Mohammed. Some Answered Questions p.13 and footnote 1 p.13 Mentioned of Joseph, Hagar, and Ishmael. Some Answered Questions p.13 Claim that Socrates visited Syria and took from the Israelites the teachings of the unity of God and immortality of the soul. Later the people of Greece accused him of impiety and had him executed by poison. Some Answered Questions p.14-15 Moses was a stammerer, who killed an Egyptian, and afterwards was raised to the rank of prophet. Some Answered Questions p.15 Alleged that in Jesus’ time, the slightest deviation from Judaism exposed the offender to danger or to death. Some Answered Questions p.16 Christ abrogated the laws of Moses. Some Answered Questions p.16 Weird quote allegedly from Christ. Some Answered Questions p.17 Mohammed’s military expeditions were always defensive. Some Answered Questions p.18 False in Pre-Islam: Arabs told their wives, if a daughter is born to you I will kill you. Some Answered Questions p.19 A man could take 1,000 women, and most men had more than ten wives. [The math here is interesting since they buried baby daughters.] Some Answered Questions p.19 "They were like a man holding in his hand a cup of poison, which, when about to drink, a friend breaks and thus saves him." Some Answered Questions p.21 False: Mohammed never fought against the Christians. Some Answered Questions p.21 Christians did not have to fight in Muslim armies, but in compensation for this, they had to pay a small sum of money. Some Answered Questions p.21 Mention of the false claim that Mohammed cleft/split the moon in two. Some Answered Questions p.22 Alleged that everyone said the earth was the center of the universe. Some Answered Questions p.23 Qur’an says the sun moves in a fixed place (Sura 36:37 and each star moves in its own heaven. (Sura 36:38). Some Answered Questions p.23 "Baha’u’llah appeared at a time when the Persian Empire was immersed in profound obscurantism and ignorance and lost in the blindest fanaticism." Some Answered Questions p.27 "Briefly, we will say that Persian had fallen so low that to all foreign travelers it was a matter of regret that this country, which in former times had been so glorious and highly civilized, had now become so decayed, ruined and upset, and that is population had lost its dignity." Some Answered Questions p.27 Baha’u’llah wrote a letter to Napoleon III, prophesying that his kingdom will be taken away and he will be destroy. Germany defeated Napoleon in 1870 A.D. Some Answered Questions p.32-33 Baha’u’llah was alleged by some as an enemy of the Shah, but he was not really an enemy of the Shah. Some Answered Questions p.33 Most prophecies alleged fulfilled in the Tablets to the Kings. Some Answered Questions p.33 Siyyid Davudi, a Sunni from Baghdad, wrote a short work on miracles of Baha’u’llah. Some Answered Questions p.34 Baha’u’llah never studied Arabic, but Arabic scholars said his eloquence and elegance in Arabic was unequaled. Some Answered Questions p.34 His enemies allegedly planned to crucify and destroy the Baha’u’llah. Some Answered Questions p.35 Mention of the darkness and earthquake and torn veil when Christ was crucified. However, these were not recorded anywhere else, or figurative and did not actually happen. Some Answered Questions p.37-38 Mention of Numbers 14:34 (one year of wandering for each of the 40 days they explored Canaan) is mentioned to justify that one day – one year in Daniel. Some Answered Questions p.40 Mention of 70 weeks in Daniel 9:29. Some Answered Questions p.40-43 Dan 12:6 referring to the Bab, since he appeared 1,260 days from the Hejira of Mohammed. Some Answered Questions p.42 Mention of the Baha’ullah 1,290 days (years) after Mohammed. Some Answered Questions p.43-44 Mention of the Father. Some Answered Questions p.43 In Rev 11, mention of Jerusalem being trampled for 42 months refers to the time between the Hejira of Mohammed and the revelation of the Bab in 1260 A.D. Some Questions Answered p.46-47 Mention of Rev 12. Some Questions Answered p.67-72 Things such as fasting, prayer, worship, marriage and divorce, abolition of slavery, indemnities for murder, theft, injuries, refers to material things and is altered in each prophetic cycle according to the times. Some Questions Answered p.48 Positive mention of the law and teachings of Mohammed, and the explanations and commentaries of ‘Ali. Some Questions Answered p.50 Water turn to blood in Rev 11 means the prophethood of Mohammed and the power of ‘Ali were like the prophethood of Moses and the power of Joshua. Some Questions Answered p.50 The beast who attacked the two prophets in Rev 11 is the [Muslim] Omayyad/Umayyad Dynasty who rose against the religion of Mohammed and the reality of ‘Ali. [The Umayyads are the first caliphs or Abu Bakr, ‘Umar, Mu’awiyah, Yezid, etc.] Some Questions Answered p.51 After the martyrdom of the Bab, there was an earthquake in Shiraz and many people were destroyed, and there were great plagues. This allegedly fulfilled Rev 11:12-13. Some Questions Answered p.55-56 In Rev 11:14-15, is Mohammed the first woe, and the Bab the second woe. Some Questions Answered p.56-57 In Moses’ time there were 12 chiefs of tribes, in Christ’s time there were 12 apostles, and in Mohammed’s time there were 12 imams. 24 is the double of 12 for the Baha’u’llah. Some Questions Answered p.57-58 Mention of Isaiah 11. Some Questions Answered p.62-66 Christ called himself the Son of God. Some Questions Answered p.63 "The Muhammadans possess in the Qur’an, and in a large store of traditions, a much fuller record of the life and teachings of their Prophet, but Muhammad Himself, though inspired, was illiterate, as were most of His early followers. The methods employed for recording and spreading His teachings were in many respects unsatisfactory, and the authenticity of many of the traditions is very doubtful. As a result, differences of interpretation and conflicting opinions have cause divisions and dissensions in Islam, as in all previous religious communities." http://bahai-library.com/books/new.era/8.html Baha’u’llah and Abdu’l-Baha regard the descriptions of Heaven and Hell given in some of the older religious writings as symbolic, like the Biblical story of the Creation, and not as literally true. According to Them, Heaven is the state of perfection, and Hell that of imperfection; Heaven is harmony with God’s will and with our fellows, and Hell is the want of such harmony; Heaven is the condition of spiritual life, and Hell that of spiritual death. A man may be either in Heaven or in Hell while still in the body. The joys of Heaven are spiritual joys; and the pains of Hell consist in the deprivation of these joys. http://bahai-library.com/books/new.era/11.html Universe has not beginning in time, but is a perpetual emanation from the Great First Cause. The earth is billions of years old, and evolution is the way God created everything. Do not believe creation in six days in Genesis. Do not believe Exodus and the ten plagues in Egypt were literally true. http://bahai-library.com/books/new.era/12.html
Baha’i Quotes Baha’u’llah taught that a prophet was the light bringer of the spiritual world Persia, in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries she had sunk to a condition of deplorable degradation http://bahai-library.com/books/new.era/2.html
The Bahá’í Revelation is unprecedented and unique among the faiths of the world by reason of the fullness and completeness of its authentic records. The recorded words that can with certainty be attributed to Christ, to Moses, to Zoroaster, to Buddha, to Krishna, are very few, and leave many modern questions of great practical importance unanswered. Many of the teachings commonly attributed to these religious Founders are of doubtful authenticity, and some are evidently accretions of later date. Baha’u’llah further arranged that an International House of Justice, representative of all Bahá’ís throughout the world, should be elected to take charge of the affairs of the Cause, control and coordinate all its activities, prevent divisions and schisms, elucidate obscure matters, and preserve the teachings from corruption and misrepresentation. The fact that this supreme administrative body can not only initiate legislation on all matters not defined in the Teachings, but also annul its own enactments when new conditions require different measures, enables the Faith to expand and adapt itself, like a living organism, to the needs and requirements of a changing society. Moreover, Baha’u’llah expressly forbade interpretation of the teachings by anyone but the authorized interpreter. In His Will and Testament Abdu’l-Baha appointed Shoghi Effendi to be the Guardian of the Faith after Him and to be empowered to interpret the Writings. "Christ, hungry and without shelter, ate herbs in the wilderness, and was unwilling to hurt the feelings of anyone. The Pope sits in a carriage covered with gold and passes his time in the utmost splendor, amidst such pleasures and luxuries, such riches and adoration, as kings have never had. Christ hurt no one, but some of the Popes killed innocent people: refer to history. How much blood the Popes have shed merely to retain temporal power! For mere differences of opinion they arrested, imprisoned and slew thousands of the servants of the world of humanity and learned men who had discovered the secrets of nature. To what a degree they opposed the truth!" Some Questions Answers p.136
"The Papal See has constantly opposed knowledge;" Some Questions Answered p.137 Baha’i Feasts and Fasts Period of the Fast, nineteen days beginning March Feast of Naw-Ruz (Baha’i, Zoroastrian, and Persian New Year), (March equinox around March 21) Feast of Ridvan (Baha’u’llah’s declaration), April 21-May 2 Declaration of the Bab, May 23 Ascension of Baha’u’llah, May 29 Martyrdom of the Bab, July 9 Birth of the Bab, October 20 Birth of Baha’u’llah, November 12 Day of the Covenant, November 26 Ascension of Abdu’l-Baha, November 28
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